The Myth of Herd Immunity

CNN article: U.S. measles cases in 2013 may be most in 17 years

Apparently “this year is on track to be the worst for measles in more than a decade”…..and
….wait for it…..wait for it….yep, of course…..AND
“people who refuse to vaccinate their children are behind the increasing number of outbreaks, health officials say”

Ofcourse! It is ALWAYS the unvaccinated. And the answer is always MORE vaccines.

This is a two part series on my response to the CNN article.

Part I: The Myth of Herd Immunity
Part II: Why All the Measles Outbreaks

The Myth of Herd Immunity

 The Myth of Herd Immunity leads us to believe that unvaccinated populations will bring back epidemics of deadly diseases. This myth also makes us believe that unvaccinated children are a threat to society and that unvaccinated children pose a risk to vaccinated children. I’ll tackle this whole discombobulated mess of a myth in one post, through the research, knowledge, science, & expertise of a doctor, a pediatrician, & a neurosurgeon.


What are we told?

  • We often hear statements from public health officials like “Clusters of unvaccinated children are not only in potential danger themselves, but are also a threat to the herd immunity”.
  • Authorities argue that parents should vaccinate their children to protect society as a whole from epidemics.
  • According to public health officials, “parents who reject vaccines don’t consider the effect of their child on the rest of society”.
  • We are told that for the shots to work, everyone must play along. And parents who decline the vaccines, are somehow reaping the benefits from those who are vaccinated.

What is truth? 

Dr. O’Shea, in his book: “Vaccination is Not Immunization” explains:  “Do not make the error of many pediatricians or journalists who talk about herd immunity as though it refers to the immunity that proceeds from a large group of people being vaccinated. The calculated deception behind this common misnomer is that if you don’t know what herd immunity is, you’ll buy their illusion: that the unvaccinated child can take advantage of the herd who have been vaccinated. This is well thought-out propaganda. True herd immunity is a term which indicates that a disease has burned itself out within a population, as with plague, smallpox, typhus-every infectious disease in history. The herd has become immune. Natural selection. It has to do with nature, not with manmade vaccines. Don’t be fooled again”

Dr. Palevsky (board-certified pediatrician) explains: “This whole concept of herd immunity is very interesting, because we were taught that herd immunity occurs because a certain percentage of a population gets an active illness. Therefore by a certain percentage of getting the active illness, they impart a protection onto the remaining part of the population that has not gotten the illness yet. And so the herd that is getting the illness is shedding the illness and protecting those who have not gotten it.

In vaccine science, we are extrapolating or concluding that if we vaccinate a certain percentage of people, we are imparting protection on those who have not been vaccinated. And that has NOT been shown to be true, because the true herd immunity in theory is based on an ACTIVE DISEASE, and we know that despite what we’re taught, vaccination does not mimic the natural disease.

So we cannot use the same model of herd immunity in a natural disease in the vaccination policy. But unfortunately, we do use it even though it doesn’t have scientific backing.

What’s most interesting to me is that the entire concept of herd immunity fails to acknowledge that there is a life cycle of the viruses and the bacteria all on their own, and that what turns them on and off may have nothing to do with the percentage of people who have been infected.

We fail to include that viruses have a life cycle, and that they are in relationship to other organisms and to us. Something activates them and something actually stops them, and it has nothing necessarily to do with the percentage of people who would have the illness or who have been vaccinated. …

It is preposterous to think that a child who is vaccinated no longer carries the bacteria or the viruses that they have been vaccinated against. If, in fact, children are vaccinated, then why are parents and public health authorities afraid that non-vaccinated children are somehow carrying something that their children are not, when they should feel comfortable that their children are vaccinated? You can’t have it both ways”.

Dr. Blaylock (board certified neurosurgeon) explains: 
“In the original description of herd immunity, the protection to the population at large occurred only if people contracted the infections naturally. The reason is that naturally acquired immunity lasts for a lifetime. Vaccine proponents quickly latched onto this concept and applied it to vaccine-induced immunity. But there was one major problem: Vaccine-induced immunity lasts for only a relatively short period…

This is why they quietly began to suggest  boosters for most vaccines, even the common childhood infections such as chickenpox, measles, mumps, and rubella.

Then they discovered an even greater problem: The boosters were lasting for only two years or less. This is why we are now seeing mandates that youth entering colleges have multiple vaccines, even those that they insisted gave lifelong immunity, such as the MMR. The same is being suggested for full-grown adults. Ironically, no one in the media or medical field is asking what is going on. They just accept that it must be done.

That vaccine-induced herd immunity is mostly myth can be proven quite simply. When I was in medical school, we were taught that all of the childhood vaccines lasted a lifetime. This thinking existed for over 70 years. It was not until relatively recently that it was discovered that most of these vaccines lost their effectiveness 2 to 10 years after being given.

What this means is that at least half the population, that is the baby boomers, have had no vaccine-induced immunity against any of these diseases for which they had been vaccinated very early in life. At least 50 percent of the population has been unprotected for decades.

If we listen to present-day wisdom, we are all at risk of resurgent massive epidemics should the vaccination rate fall below 95 percent. Yet we have all lived for at least 30 to 40 years with 50 percent or less of the population having vaccine protection.

Herd immunity has not existed in this country for many decades, and no resurgent epidemics have occurred. Vaccine-induced herd immunity is a lie used to frighten doctors, public-health officials, other medical personnel, and the public into accepting vaccinations”.

Where is the Logic?

Take Pertussis (whooping cough) Dr. Palevsky explains this very well:

Do children vaccinated with the pertussis vaccine somehow stop carrying pertussis bacteria in their airways simply because they’ve been vaccinated? NO

Do pertussis vaccines stop vaccinated children from transmitting the pertussis bacteria to other people? NO

Do pertussis bacteria disappear from society once vaccination rates are high? NO: Vaccination rates for pertussis have no impact on whether the pertussis bacteria are in the air or not, or whether or not we breathe them in. The presence of the pertussis bacteria, and the exposure to them, are in no way affected by vaccination status or vaccination rates.

Do unvaccinated children, because they are unvaccinated, carry the bacteria in their airways, which vaccinated children are somehow no longer believed to be carrying because they’ve been vaccinated? NO

Do unvaccinated children transmit the pertussis bacteria to other children by the mere fact that they are not vaccinated? NO: Air is air. Air is free to breathe. We breathe in whatever is in the air. And, vaccinated and unvaccinated children are equally exposed to breathing in pertussis bacteria.

Anyone who poses as science the idea that unvaccinated children pose a threat to the population because they are unvaccinated and are more likely to transmit a disease to the rest of the population, is misleading you, promulgating myth, and inaccurate. Vaccination with the pertussis vaccine does not exonerate anyone from carrying the pertussis bacteria, or prevent them from being exposed to the bacteria.

The fact is that vaccination does NOT stop you from carrying bacteria or viruses in your nose, throat, intestines, airway, skin, or in your body. We have been made to believe that if you’re vaccinated, you won’t carry the viruses, and therefore, others will be protected because you’re vaccinated. This belief is NOT based on scientific fact.

You can’t vaccinate believing that your children are protected and then feel that your children are not protected because somehow, some non-vaccinated child is carrying some secret organism that one else is carrying. You can’t have it both ways. It just doesn’t make any sense.

Part II: I’m going to break down the errors in the CNN article

Lastly, If a comment is rude or degrading, it is thrown in the trash. I do not see many of the comments, as they are sent to me once they pass approval (thank goodness for a comment moderator). I try to respond to as many comments as I can, but I do not get to all of them. If you want your comment approved, be kind. If you do not agree with this blog, may I kindly suggest that you spend your time and energy elsewhere. I will never waste my time or energy engaging with insults, and honestly I don’t even see them. 

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74 thoughts on “The Myth of Herd Immunity

    • People can no longer think for themselves. They are now “sheeple” and big pharma is only out to make the almighty dollar – they do not care about your health.

      • Great way to put it, Sandy!
        I no longer post stuff on fb because of the ignorance of the others. I just “like” and comment on everything about the dangers of vaccines and pin it to my pinterest boards. That way my friends can still see it, but I’m not pushing it on them.

      • Kim! Pinterest is the best thing ever!!!!! This is a pinterest board: http://www.pinterest.com/switchfan/alternatively

        This is where you can sign up for a free account: http://www.pinterest.com

        People who “follow” you (your friends on pinterest, usually found through already being friends on facebook, or just searching for famous people or prolific pinners) see whatever you ‘pin’ in their feed. When you follow people, you see what they pin in your feed.

        BE CAREFUL! It’s more addictive than facebook and tumblr combined…..

    • cici,
      Fear is powerful and causes people to react with out thinking. There was a time when the world was flat and many who dared to say otherwise were thrown off the edge. Surprisingly, they survived and returned, slowly the fear dissipated and the truth became accepted. Cultivate friendships with others who can see the truth and are willing to suffer the wrath of others fear, you will find the support you need to stand strong. As you continue in your conviction others will begin to fear what they “know” more than what they fear don’t understand.

    • Cici………I am really sorry to hear of others attitudes regarding these issues. I am surprised at the number of my friends that think on the same level as myself on a number of things……..conservative, raw and living foods/smoothies/vegan or vegetarian AND anti pharma and all that goes with it. ;)

      Post a notice with your ‘controversial’ subjects similar to what gianelloni does…..that this is YOUR belief and you are hoping to enlighten friends that have an open, inquiring and perhaps undecided mind. If they leave negative and demeaning remarks the remarks WILL be removed and then don’t stress about it, just do it! It is not worth losing sleep over what the sheeples think and write……..just feel sorry for them!

    • what is wrong with people is that the truth hurts, and often they cant handle their safe little bubble worlds being shattered, becasue then they’d be forced to REALLY think. proud mummy of unvaccinated 8 year old, my mum stopped my vaccines after 3 shots ( im now 31) and my younger bros and sis have never been shot. theyre all 22+ now. keep living your truth <3

    • You are not alone! There is a whole community of people all around the world that are with you on this.
      Those people who are getting angry with you are scared themselves that everything they’ve ever been told is a lie. It is difficult to persuade someone who is ignorant of the subject and scientific fact that what they are basing their beliefs on is the fear mongering propaganda from big pharma and government.

      Trust in yourself and your decisions. Never stop researching ALL sides and thank you for standing up for what you believe in.

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  2. This is great, thank you! How do you respond to the main concern of the article about infants (under 1 – cannot get the measles vacc yet) parents being uncomfortable with the fact that the unvaccinated part of the herd can subject their unvacc infant to a disease.

    • Vaccinated children still contract and spread these same diseases. I guess also, one would have to believe that vaccines protect, to think those who are vaccinated are suddenly “protected” and that those under age 1 are at risk. I’m more concerned with unvaccinated children being around recently vaccinated children with live virus vaccines that shed.

      My job is to protect my own children. I build their immune systems properly and we do not fear these diseases. My hope would be that other parents would know how to protect their own children too.

      For me, protecting against and treating measles does not boil down to a vaccinated vs. unvaccinated issue. There is so much more to the immune system and diseases, in which vaccines have no role in.

    • Parents have to take responsibility for protecting young infants. Most people are not up to date with all the available vaccines, and, for the sake of their health, they shouldn’t be. The vaccines are often ineffective and always dangerous. Young infants should be kept at home and, if someone in the family has any illness, appropriate steps should be taken to protect the infant. Separate room, masks, boiling, laundering, etc. Pertussis, measles, and other illnesses can be dangerous for the youngest infants. If the mother had natural measles, she gives placental immunity to her baby that lasts for some months, and if she breastfeeds him (the best thing she can do for him), that will give him her immunity in his first, most vulnerable year. See Dr. Suzanne Humphries for advice on caring for young infants with pertussis (high-dose vitamin C, holding infant upright during all coughing fits). However, the more older people just get the natural diseases, the more we will have true effective herd immunity.

      • This was interesting. I plan to breastfeed any children I have for one year minimum. I’ve heard the term “dialithic immunity” or something, which I will be looking up as part of my research.

        I had all my vacs as a kid (born 1981, UK) and as a kid I was so ill with upper respiratory infections including chronic flu which gave me hallucinations – I remember the time vividly as it was not pleasant. I’m not saying vacs were to blame, but I do wonder.

        I had measles at age 13. Do you mean I will pass the immunity onto my child after this?

        I have to say that as an adult who eats healthily (vegetarian – 5+ portions of (proper) fruit and veg a day, avoids wheat and dairy where possible) I am fit and healthy to a point of being told how good I look for my age and never being ill. I have had flu once as an adult (caught it off kids) but I went to the centre to get Tamiflu for my friend’s daughter and was in a room of people who were supposedly affected with swine flu – never got ill.

        I don’t get colds and if I get any such symptoms they disappear within a few days. I worked in a doctors for six months and people where always bringing their children in with rashes (pox, mumps, measles) and I never got anything. Apparently can get chicken pox again, as another disease? (I have had all three conditions as a child) never got ill.

        What does this say about the situation?

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  4. You wrote a very good article and quoted three people who have done lots of studying about vaccination and immunity. I just want to point out that Dr. Tim O’Shea is a chiropractor, rather than an M.D., just so people know.

      • A year and a half ago I used chiropractic care and diet to “treat” enlarged adenoids in my 3 year old. The “MD” said surgery was the only solution. I was terrified of putting my son under anesthesia or the knife (and adenoids can grow back – so it’s not a guarantee); so, I got on the internet and began researching. The main culprit is inflammation – which chiropractic adjustments and dietary adjustments could manage. Not only did it work – but I eliminated the risks that go along with surgery. Within 3 weeks the symptoms were gone. Since then there have been 3x he’s had a cold and the adenoid symptoms came back. In all three instances I did the exclusionary diet again (no gluten or dairy) and chiropractic adjustments and the symptoms went away within a week. We should always try natural care first; and medical care as a last resort, IMO. The older I get the more I’m learning. :)

      • If my mom had known how helpful chiropractors are and the importance of avoiding certain foods, I might not have had my tonsils (and I think adenoids) removed when I was young, in the late 1950s. I didn’t realize that adenoids could grow back. I wonder if mine did.

  5. What I am finding is that there is such a strong basis of absolute trust in doctors, pharmaceutical companies, med school, etc… that people are not able to be reasoned with. You have to start way back at the foundation and start researching. When you begin to see all the ways that Big Pharma has been controlling med school, perpetuating propaganda for their own gain, ensuring that research that doesn’t agree with them gets hidden or halted – FOR DECADES-, then it becomes easier to understand how so much of what is being touted by the CDC and FDA is just complete nonsense. But people aren’t willing to go to the foundation, therefore their absolute belief that people in power would never do anything to harm the general public causes them to believe everything The Powerful tell them.

    • I agree. It really comes down to a conflict of interests. “My investment in my current belief system is so great it would cost me too much to change it.” People have invested time, money, emotion and their own ‘good opinion’ for too long in the traditional ‘health’ care system. A change of mindset usually comes slowly. Sometimes it comes through a tragic vaccine injury. I am thankful for those who have allowed their pain to bring knowledge and light to my life.

      • That is certainly how it worked for me, Becky. Fortunately, my oldest children’s vaccine reactions and health consequences were on the minimal side, but oh, I wish I had known from the start what I was forced to learn when fearing for my kds’ health. My youngest two have never had a vaccination.

        Same goes for diet and its impact on health, immune system functioning, etc.–glad I know now, but wish I’d known from the start. It’s really hard to revamp a family’s diet–we thought I were heathy eaters, but so many foods we eat are grain-based, and I *know* we have inflammatory responses to those foods. Looking back, the red flags are glaringly obvious.

        I, too, have been scathingly attacked because of our non-vax status. I am extremely grateful for these and other articles, and for the community of sensible, like-minded people who have opened their eyes to the reality which much of the rest of the mainstream world cannot see, or refuses to see.

  6. I think that the argument that you’re making about vaccinating parents being worried about what your unvaccinated kids might give them is off-base. As a vaccinating parent, I’m not concerned about my ALREADY vaccinated kids, but my infant. She’s too young to be vaccinated and therefore isn’t protected (in my humble opinion) against the diseases she might be exposed to by unvaccinated kids. I have a friend whose 2 year old has cancer and is too immunocompromised to be vaccinated. She, also, doesn’t want unvaccinated children around her toddler because her toddler is not protected. I’m not trying to start a war, I just think you’re arguing something that isn’t there…Or it’s too late, I’m sleep deprived and have poor reading comprehension right now. :) Carry on. :)

    • I guess you would have to believe that vaccines “protect” to feel that your infant is “unprotected” and your other children are “protected”.

      Unvaccinated children do not walk around carrying secret viruses and bacteria that no-one else has. An unvaccinated child with measles has no greater chance of spreading measles than a vaccinated child with measles would. I don’t really understand the logic behind not allowing unvaccinated children around a child who is not “protected”. Vaccinated children still contract disease. And unvaccinated children don’t just walk around spreading diseases. You have to actually be sick to spread a disease. Most parents I know, keep their children home when they are sick…vaccinated or not.

      Think about the “outbreaks”. Vaccinated children still contract the diseases in these outbreaks.

      Many, many outbreaks for both measles and whooping cough are within vaccinated populations. This might help: http://gianelloni.wordpress.com/2012/01/22/pertussis-the-outbreaks-that-cried-wolf/

      My concern is my children being around those recently vaccinated with live virus vaccines, as those vaccines shed the disease in which they were vaccinated against. I do not allow my children around recently vaccinated children. So I see it the other way around actually.

      In addition, I have many friends with immunocompromised children. Their are children are immunocompromised because of vaccines. They keep their children away from those recently vaccinated too. And they do not believe it is my job to “protect” their children.

      Again, I guess you would have to believe that vaccines “protect”.

      Best wishes!

      • One of the questions asked at blood donation centers is if you have been around anyone who has recently has a small pox vaccine. If the answer is yes, you are deferred for up to 21 days because you will have been exposed to the live virus and could pass it on to others. This is true even if you have been vaccinated against small pox.

      • WOW-great information. Reminds me of the book “How to raise a healthy child …In spite of your doctor” by Robert S. Mendelsohn, M.D.. Dr.Mendelsohn was a pediatrician.
        When I was in my 3rd yr. of Doctorate study I was very depressed and had made up my mind to drop out of school. Dr. Mendelsohn came to Palmer College-addressed the student body and was so positive about the philosophy of Chiropractic that I changed my mind- got my Doctorate. Never vaccinated my children. They are adults now and have life long immunity from the childhood diseases that the had. Thank you for your educational efforts.
        Dr. Frank D. Martin

      • Love THINKING doctors! Thank-you for taking the time to share! And awesome you got to meet Dr. Mendelsohn. His book made a big impact on me when I started researching vaccines 8 years ago! We need more doctors like you and him!

  7. My son contracted pertussis this winter, (he was 1 and unvaccinated.) He developed pneumonia but was not hospitalized. Once the labs came back confirming pertussis, he was given an antibiotic and the rest of the family was put onto an antibiotic and told to stay home, without visitors. I got a call from the local health department who all but demanded that I rush my whole family in to be vaccinated, and then he said the following, “Even though we KNOW that the pertussis vaccine is one of the least effective vaccines available, it is still a good idea to bring your family in.”

    I was shocked! I did not take my family in, but I could not believe the conversation! I was practically villianized by this man on the phone and then told that even if I had taken the socially acceptable “precaution” it probably wouldn’t have worked anyway.

  8. Great article – keep it coming! The misinformed beliefs out there are so prevalent, and so powerful, because they have the state-sanctioned medical system behind them, which is actually just a paeon of the ‘pharmacodoxy’. And in such a context, it is difficult and brave to speak up against it, because the uninformed truly believe that they are the holders of the Truth, and that non-believers are dangerous and irresponsible. It is such a pity J D Rockefeller, who in the latter part of his life only used homeopathy (and lived to 99!) happened to have funded the AMA. The AMA used the money to suppress the competition – the 1 in 4 doctors at the beginning of the 20th century, who were homeopaths. We might not be having this conversation now, had he not funded them! So keep up the good work. Drip, drip, drip!

  9. Thanks for the information and excellent article. I am a Mom to 3 grown sons, who had their initial “vaccines” and then became enlightened as I educated myself. My youngest son had symptoms similiar to autism (but didn’t have it) and they eradicated themselves as he matured and received no further vaccines. We altered our diet tremendously and have been vaccine free. As a healthcare worker, in a very large hospital., I recently lost my job due to not “vaccinating ” against the flu. I don’t believe in the use of vaccines and my religious exemption was denied, so I was fired. I have never had the flu in 25 yeasrs of working in a level ! trauma center, so therefore I have never given my patients the flu. I don’t get sick, and have been a model worker who doesn’t use her sick time. It is a shame what lack of study and knowledge does to people. Thanks for sharing the truth.

    • Hi, I can’t believe you were sacked for this. I think that is very wrong. Are you in the US? I wonder if it would be the same here. I also work in a hospital, but in administration, so not patient-facing. We have been offered a free flu jab, but they haven’t asked us to have it. I won’t have it because I have had the flu, but I have only had it once as an adult, and that was about five years ago. I don’t get ill anymore at all. I used to be very ill as a child (I had all my vaccines, not that I can say that was the cause or not) but I was chronic with flu, colds, coughs, and basically my upper respiratory tract was plagued until I left home.

      Today I am vegetarian and obsessed with healthy eating. I have seen a transformation in my skin for one thing since I stopped eating meat and became obsessed with healthy eating.

      I wouldn’t like to get any vaccinations nowadays, although not knowing much about the issue (or at least not as much as I would like, yet) I would definitely get vaccinations if I were to go abroad. Even if the idea (discussed below) is accurate – that antigens do not mean immunity – I am sure that producing antigens to diseases I am never otherwise going to come into contact with is a good idea if I am going somewhere abroad which has those diseases.

      This is not the case with flu though. I think my body must have produced many antigens to many different strains of flu and cold over the years. I am 32 years old now and as I say was plagued as a child but today am fit as a fiddle.

    • I may be in your shoes shortly, so far just masks in case of an outbreak, of course only for those unvaccinated. the vaccinated are free to shed all over our dear elders. i love my job and worry about the future and how I will find other work. But I will not bend and let them defile my body ever again! Blessings to you and all caught up in the outrageous mis-information and fear campaigns being spread from big pharma through the bought main stream media. Once you realize the increasing numbers of auto-immune and alzhiemers may well be caused by vaccinations, there is no way to rest easy with just buckling under and rolling up your sleeve. The foreign DNA is a huge problem in my mind and not just the adjuvants.

  10. Thank you so much for your writings! I feel so encouraged and appreciate your references. As a new mom you can feel so bombarded with newness but then when you decide to do something outside the “norm”/not vaccinate your child the pressure intensifies both from friends/family and doctors. So thank you for making a stand for truth, the ability to think, and the trust in a real living amazing God!

  11. I am a national board-certified medical laboratory scientist and I would like to add to this conversation by defining just exactly what is meant by “immunity” as it relates to the subject of vaccine-induced immunity and natural immunity.

    “Immunity” to a pathogenic antigen (virus or bacteria) is achieved by creating antibodies. In the case of naturally-acquired immunity, the antibodies are created by the host because of a previous infection. This immunity lasts throughout the life of the host. Artificially-acquired immunity (such as vaccinations) is caused by the exposure of the antigen (not the disease) to a person who has not already developed antibodies, causing them to create antibodies. In most cases, these antibodies will remain for the life of the host because they were created by the host.

    Antibodies bind to antigens and activate the immune response. In both naturally-acquired and artificially-acquired immunity, a person who is “immune” to a pathogen can carry the pathogen (and also spread the pathogen) for as long as it takes for the antibodies to bind to the antigen and begin the immune response. The immune response involves white blood cells called T-cells. These T-cells join with macrophages in order to chew up and engulf the pathogenic antigen. This process is known as phagocytosis. The pathogen is then eliminated from the body.

    Antibodies can also be given to a host, but this immunity only lasts for a short time. A mother will transfer her antibodies to a child, and give the child a short-term (usually about 3 months) immunity until the child develops its own immune system. Antibodies can also be injected into a host. This is not what happens during vaccination! These injected antibodies are usually given to patients suffering from immunodeficiency disorders.

    In the case of un-vaccinated children, their bodies have not developed the antibodies necessary to destroy the pathogen when/if they come in contact with it. If they get infected by a pathogen, then their body will begin the slow process of developing the antibodies and then destroying the pathogen. Unfortunately, sometimes the time it takes for a person to create these antibodies is too long and they die from the disease that the pathogen causes. The purpose of the vaccination is to prepare the child’s body for the pathogen by exposing them beforehand to the inactive antigen so that they can begin creating those antibodies.

    I do not have enough expertise to say why boosters are necessary. I also disagree with the CDC recommended vaccination schedule (I don’t think that many shots are necessary in such a short time period) and I do not understand why these vaccines have additives such as mercury, thimerosol, etc. The adjuvant is sometimes added to vaccines to cause an inflammatory response, which speeds up the time it takes to normally build the antibodies. This is necessary in some vaccinations such as Hepatitis, and it causes a burning sensation when receiving the shot.

    Both natural and vaccinated children (both immune) can cause a child who is not immune (un-vaccinated) to be exposed to a pathogen. The argument that un-vaccinated children cause a danger to the immunity of the herd is not scientifically sound. If the herd is immune (either because of natural or artifically-acquired immunity), then that means that they have all created antibodies to defend against pathogenic exposure. So, if an infected child (or just a carrier) were to introduce the pathogen into the herd it wouldn’t matter because they are all already immune! It’s important to understand that immunity is NOT genetic. It is developed naturally. The antibodies your mother gave you will only be active for about three months. The myth of herd immunity is the idea that once the entire herd is immune, they will transmit that immunity to their offspring. This is not what happens in nature.

    The only way the entire herd can be immune is to have every single person in the herd develop antibodies, either naturally due to prior infection or artificially by vaccination. In either case, the introduction of an infected child to a group of vaccinated children will not cause the vaccinated children to get sick. It will, however, cause other un-vaccinated (not immune) children to get sick! So, the mother who worries about her un-vaccinated child being exposed to infected children is right to do so unless the child has the mother’s antibodies.

    • I appreciate your response and agree with most of it. I do not disagree with all of it, but rather than point out the parts I don’t agree with, I think you should read the newly released book Vaccine Illusion, written by Harvard PhD. Immunologist. Dr. O’s book explains all of this and more. I recently attended one of her talks and she spoke in depth on immunity (antigens). Forward to the book: “I never imagined myself in this position, least so in the very beginning of my Ph.D. research training in immunology. In fact, at that time, I was very enthusiastic about the concept of vaccination, just like any typical immunologist. However, after years of doing research in immunology, observing scientific activities of my superiors, and analyzing vaccine issues, I realized that vaccination is one of the most deceptive inventions the science could ever convince the world to accept”

      Here’s a few quotes from other sources I’ve researched from:

      “The term immunization gives a false sense of security. The rise in the antibody titer is only a part of the body’s response; other parts of the immune system have not been activated. Years of experimenting with the immune systems of humans have proven nature does it best. ‘Immunity’ derived from vaccination is not complete, temporary at best and for many is dangerous, even lethal.”-Lendon Smith MD, Professor, Clinical Pediatrics, Oregon Health Services University

      “The fallacy of this (antibody theory) was exposed nearly 50 years ago…A report published by the Medical Research Council entitled ‘A Study of Diptheria in Two Areas of Great Britain’, Special Report series 272, HMSA 1950 demonstrated that many of the diphtheria patients had high level of circulating antibodies, whereas many of the contacts who remained perfectly well had low antibody.”

      “When they say immunogenicity what they actually mean is antibody levels. Antibody levels are not the same as immunity. The recent mumps vaccine fiasco in Switzerland has re-emphasized this point. Three mumps vaccines…all produced excellent antibody levels but those vaccinated with the Rubini strain had the same attack rate as those not vaccinated at all. There were some who said that it actually caused outbreaks.” (Many have raised the question of whether, indeed, it’s the vaccinated who threaten the unvaccinated.)
      Jayne Donegan, MBBS, DRGOG, DCH, DFFP, England

      “From repeated medical investigations, it would seem that antibodies are about as useful as a black eye in protecting the victim from further attacks. The whole subject of immunity and antibodies is so extremely complex…We can obtain some idea of complexity from ‘The Integrity of the Human Body’ by Sir Macfarlane Burnet. He calls attention to the fact the mystery – that some children can never develop antibodies at all, but can nonetheless go through a typical attack of say, measles, make a normal recovery and show normal continuing resistance to re-infection. Furthermore, we had heard for years of attempts made to relate the amount of antibody in patients to their degree of immunity to infection. The results have often been so farcically chaotic, so entirely unlike what was expected, that the scandal had to be hushed up or put into a report, which is much the same thing. ” (M. R. C. Report, No. 272, May 1950, ‘A Study of Diptheria in Two Areas of Great Britain’ now out of print)
      Lionel Dale, Author ‘The Blood Poisoners’

      “We were taught that antibodies means protection against disease. When AIDS started, the antibodies meant instead of being protected you were doomed. Suddenly people had to change their concept. You can be loaded with antibodies and still get the disease you may have no antibodies and not catch the disease, so this concept to antibodies we were taught as students was wrong.”
      Archie Kalokerinos MD, PhD, AMM, MBBS, FAPM, Documentary, ‘Vaccination: The Hidden Truth’

      • I appreciate your feedback. You state some valid points. I have a question for you to follow up what you said. If immunity is not achieved by creating antibodies, then how is it achieved?

    • “I appreciate your feedback. You state some valid points. I have a question for you to follow up what you said. If immunity is not achieved by creating antibodies, then how is it achieved?”

      I have seen a YouTube video based on this concept. I am going to look into this further because it too was saying that antibodies are not at the heart of immunity. As a health professional have you never come across an argument around this? I wonder where to begin in looking for the answer to your question:

      “If immunity is not achieved by creating antibodies, then how is it achieved?”

      Have you looked into it yet, and have you found anything?

      Thanks, Eve.

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  13. I posted that very Pinterest Quote on my Facebook and didn’t get any drama from it… until my own SISTER (estranged indeed and detached from us for sure) started siding with “Have you ever even heard or taken care of a child with pertussis? I am appalled that you “crack up” or disregard others and their beliefs of herd immunity, how about you have some empathy for them? You can’t turn off your beliefs or quiet your inner voice.” I then proceeded to correct her about why herd immunity was so flawed and that I don’t shove my views down people’s throats. I keep my mouth shut and share a post or two here and there. 5x a year tops. All she could huff and puff about was my disregard for OTHERS feelings about letting their vaxed child play with my unvaxed child and how every parent wants the best for their child. Trying to shame me for something I posted on my personal page. I told her I don’t have time for this pot stirring and that she can give a call or message me privately if she was so “offended” And the kicker is…… my son has Autism. Yup. How rude and disgustingly distasteful was it for her to even bring it up?! If you have nothing nice to say, don’t say it! And especially do not say it to a mother of a special needs child. I’m weary of getting crucified for only occasionally posting and sharing non-vax or what I can Higher Thinking studies so that mommas make up their own minds and make an informed decision. It’s just sad that friends and family ties have to be cut in the process and respect can’t be mutual. Nothing is sacred and I am seeing lots of discouraging things happen but at the same time so much good is out there and I thank you for this article that really helps be stand by my convictions not to continue vaxing our ASD boy past 9m and our completely unvaxed 2yo :)

    • I’m so sorry rianna that your own sister would be so cruel as to reprimand you for speaking the truth.I hope that you are never intimidated into vaccinating your 2 yo. My family is mixed on the subject of vaccinations and my own brother won’t speak to me. (his best friend was Rit’s daddy).

      • So sad to hear that you too are facing familial brokeness. I myself had a fallout with my own mother, over lots of issues and her attitude towards our choices and I haven’t spoken or seen her in 2 years along with her not seeing her own grandchildren. I will never vaccinate and scare tactics or intimidation doesn’t work on me! Stay strong and know there are others like you that follow your terrific blog! :)

    • I’m so sorry for what you all go through! I have a very dear cousin & wife who are pro-vaccine and who have “shared” some stuff on FB (the wife) (talk about offending…) I have to block them and others from even seeing my posts because my posts will never win them.

      I follow many blogs/ comments on vaccines and am trying–TRYING–to stop. From what I read, no one gets more condescending hatred then the families of vaccine injured children. At best, it’s a pat on the head and “I’m sorry, but I just don’t think vaccines caused that.” At worst, it’s a ripping into you that you have NO proof and how DARE you expose another child to pertussis (as though your child is a breeding ground for disease) just because you’re worried about autism? The ignorance of those who don’t live with autism, who think it’s a “blessing” and parents should be delighted to have that, knows no bounds.

      Anyway, as the numbers of the vaccine-injured mount and their stories are told via the internet, the vaccine empire–I think–is slowly crumbling. (Lord, may it be soon!) For that reason, hatred is turned on those families that seems diabolically cruel, given what they’re already going through.

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  16. I actually have never thought of keeping my daughter away from children who recently had vaccines. I nanny children who get all of their vaccines (even flu). Thank you for the great info! I am even more thankful for being successful at breastfeeding after learning this. The kids I watch have brought the flu virus into our home before when their mom had it (after receiving the vaccine), and I have yet to get it. Do you have info on how long the different viruses are active after receiving shots?
    The more reading I do, the more confused I get with the logic that is used in the “for vaccines” argument. I never condemn moms who vax because I feel like they are making their decision to vax for the same reason that I made my decision to aviod vaccines…because it is the decision that is right for their family. One thing that I don’t understand though is the “doctors have years of experience and research, so I trust them” argument. But the same mom’s who claim those words will also tell you “there are a few vaccines we skip like flu and chicken pox”. It feels like a double standard to me. If you trust your doctor so much then why not get those vaccines as well? Your doctor does recommend them as much as they recommend the MMR etc. Just a thought. Not being critical. I guess I just don’t understand the need to argue. No other parent is responsible for my child, and I don’t claim responsibility for anyone else’s child…therefore, I don’t understand why we all just can’t do what we feel is best for our own families, and stop all the nonsensical bickering :)

  17. Thanks for posting this. It’s really annoying having to deal with people acting like I’m putting their kids at risk just because I don’t vaccinate my child. I found this because I just posted a little rant of my own (http://www.ssgtchrisames.com/vaccine-debate/). I’m definitely subscribing to this blog! It’s good to see other people who have intelligence to back up their arguments! =D

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  19. I really appreciate you breaking these points down. I knew in my heart I didn’t believe in vaccinations, yet often fell into the fears….and now I can see more clearly because of this post. Thank you.

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  21. This is all very interesting to me because I struggle to determine which vaccines my daughter should and should not get like many others I believed if she got vaccinated to be protected from a specific desease then she wouldn’t get it if that’s not the case and a child vaccinated or not is exposed to the desease they will likely get it then why put them through the horrible process of getting the shots at all if it doesn’t actually protect them?? Should I regect them?? My daughter just turned one and got her chicken pox mumps and measles vaccine and has had a rash since then its been two weeks drs aren’t sure what its from they day its not from vaccine but where then she doesn’t seemed phased by it or have any other symptoms but I have to wonder even more now are these vaccinations really necessary your opinion. Would be greatly appretiated thank you if u take the time too read this look forward to ur response

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  23. I am just loving your articles. I just found you through a link you left at Modern Alternative Mama, and it’s so refreshing to find this sort of informations given with evidence and medical backing, and the myths and hype broken down piece by piece. Thank you so much! :) Lisa

  24. Thank goodness you are exposing these myths with science, intelligence and rational thinking. It is all so logical – but still we need to explain it to people! Keep up the good work.

  25. I think there’s a typo in the beginning of the article where it says: “This is well though-out propaganda”. Thinking you meant “thought-out”?
    Great piece, thank you!

  26. I’m so glad there is people out there that still have brains. The more I talk to people, read posts on social media, and the rare occasion I pick up some main steam news I get worried about the direction we are heading. My opinion from my experience, research, and own intuition is that science and they health industry has the whole idea of infection and disease not just upside down, but completely misunderstood.

  27. I find this article interesting but I’m not sure the points it makes are truly in line with the real reasons parents vaccinate.

    It is silly to believe that a vaccine will prevent your child from catching a virus. The bonus to a vaccine is so your child has already built up antibodies so if the child contracts it they will not get as sick as if they had not been vaccinated. At least that has always been my thought on the matter. It will not eliminate but lessen the symptoms.

    It has also been my understanding that vaccines are not live viruses. Is that accurate in your opinion? I am truly seeking an opinion. I have always vaccinated but I do have friends and family who don’t.

    • I highly recommend the book “Vaccine Illusion”, written by a PhD Immunologist. She shares about the illusion that antibodies give immunity.

      The intro to her book begins:
      “I never imagined myself in this position, least so in the very beginning of my Ph.D. research training in immunology. In fact, at that time, I was very enthusiastic about the concept of vaccination, just like any typical immunologist. However, after years of doing research in immunology, observing scientific activities of my superiors, and analyzing vaccine issues, I realized that vaccination is one of the most deceptive inventions the science could ever convince the world to accept”

      “We were taught that antibodies means protection against disease. When AIDS started, the antibodies meant instead of being protected you were doomed. Suddenly people had to change their concept. You can be loaded with antibodies and still get the disease you may have no antibodies and not catch the disease, so this concept to antibodies we were taught as students was wrong.”
      Archie Kalokerinos MD, PhD, AMM, MBBS, FAPM, Documentary, ‘Vaccination: The Hidden Truth’

      I know many children who despite being vaxed, never develop antibodies.

      “The term immunization gives a false sense of security. The rise in the antibody titer is only a part of the body’s response; other parts of the immune system have not been activated. Years of experimenting with the immune systems of humans have proven nature does it best. ‘Immunity’ derived from vaccination is not complete, temporary at best and for many is dangerous, even lethal.”

      Lendon Smith MD, Professor, Clinical Pediatrics, Oregon Health Services University

      Also, yes many vaccines are live viruses. It’s not an opinion, it’s fact. Keep researching! And follow your instinct!

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  29. After reading your blog and much of the links and references, I agree with some of your points, but also disagree with many. I’m not going to go line by line to each response since its prohibited, but I feel like you use many tactics in logic and statistics to bend the perspective to your side. Don’t get me wrong, I did learn a lot, and found your belief and faith in this crusade commendable.

  30. I would just like to say that Vaccines, as you know are an intense and gigantic, constant debate and i am thankful everyday that i have found your blog. I would have never questioned vaccines until i had my first and only son. I was vaccinated as a child (though back in 1980, things were so very different than now) but once my son arrived, i felt like i had this perfect, pure body that i only wanted to protect. And the thought of even his first regular blood work bothered me, let alone all these vaccines i knew nothing about or their ingredients being shoved into him…..I couldn’t do it. I became very overwhelmed by it all and what to read vs what not to read and we delayed his 2 month shots until he was 5 months old and then had them done (we live in ontario, Canada) He was fine, but the next day had the “normal” low grade fever and a very hard red spot on his leg from the 5 in 1. It luckily only lasted the day, but from that point on, i found a group in my city of very well educated ladies that helped me start my long, on going researching into a nightmare of vaccine truths, and we’ve never looked back. We are fortunate to have a very pro-vaxx family doctor that still accepts us as patients and supports our decision not to vaccinate. But the information is all still so much. I found your blog through a friend and i read it as often as possible. You make everything so clear and easily understandable and you verbalize everything that i can’t but do feel. So this is just a long winded THANK YOU. Thank you so much for reminding me with your blogs that our decision IS the right one when media fear mongering gets to me and makes me question my decision. I know deep down that the measles wouldn’t be the worst thing in the world (my parents and all of their siblings had it and lived to tell with no complications and life long immunity) but the news has a strong way of making you feel like if you get it, you’ll die a horrible death.
    Keep on fighting the good fight. My family to yours…THANK YOU. :)

  31. I went to the doctor recently and one of the first things I was asked by the nurse was if I had recently had a tetanus shot. Then when the doctor came in she asked me the same question. I told her no and that I didn’t want one. She then went on to tell me that it also had the whooping cough vaccine; and that how I probably didn’t need to worry about it for me, but that it would make it safer for babies and older people. I told her that I still didn’t want it. I am angry because if I had said yes to the tetanus shot, I don’t know if they would have told me about the other two vaccines included in it or at least waited until after it was done.

    • There is so much push to get pregnant women to receive vaccinations. It really is unbelievable. Women carrying children were always respected – even the hectic vaccine pushers of the past left pregnant women alone. I shiver as I think of the ramifications for future generations. Not all pregnant women are as well informed and thick skinned as you. Well done.

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